Hands definitely won out. Was that his usual bed time or is he losing stamina? This is the first time i believe i have seen Dax with a hand. I didn't realise quite how small O. Briareus is. Perfect size! I saw a video with a bimac and it was also quite bitty. Again i was surprised. I just never imagined they were so wonderfully diminuative. I guess that is also a reason bimacs are so much in demand. I was wondering why they seem much more popular than briareus. I haven't yet gotten to see as many videos of them as briareus, thanks to you and Daxđ, but i find it hard to believe they could be more wonderful than briareus. Maybe it's just that Dax is the first octo i have made an acquaintance with. If Dax is a middleaged male, how much smaller are juveniles when they are ( i want to say adopted, but that sounds a bit crazy cat lady. I hate to say obtained or acquired, because that sounds like a pair of shoes or kitchen implement. Adopted? No. I would like to come up with a word that indicates that these are super intelligent, very special animals. I have never used words like that with my dogs or when i had horses. You know, it just dawned on me (duh!) that my perhaps pointless meanderings about octos đ are not appropriate or desired for these forums. Please tell me if they are and i will stop. You won't hurt my feelings! Again, i really do appreciate your posts,pix and videos. They are so informative and welcomed. Even if i will not be able to live with my own ceph friend, i would like to learn all i can about them. Thanks to you and TONMO that is a reality.