I just saw the post on the $80.00 Vulgaris octo. I have never payed that much for an octo and I can pass that on to you guy's and girl's. I can get live food ( crabs,shrimps,fish,corals,ect. ) or octo's for a good deal as long as you pay the shipping cost and I will keep that low to. Let me know if you guy's or girl's are interested. I didn't say anything before because I didn't want to get kicked off the site for stepping on toes. But I have no overhead so I can keep my prices low. I do this for the love of the hobby, not the money.