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Dan is exactly right. The article is excellent. Definitely a 1st read for anyone setting up a tank or even considering cuttles of any species.

One major point...cephs metabolize as if 3-4x their weight in fish, so 3-4 fish would equal 1 cuttle. That is why everyone rants about skimmers all the time, and to filter as 3-4x the tank volume.
 

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When considering lighting don't go with something too bright. When I've seen them out during the day they've always been deeper than about 20m. Even in clear waters light is a little dim down there.
 
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I will have to measure the tank. The filtration currently consists of a penguin filter. It's big, but I don't know what model. I am going to get a Seaclone 100 skimmer, but I don't have it yet. The tank is around 36 inches long, 16 inches high, and 12 inches wide or something like that.
 
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I would recommend 2. For the first 4-5 months you will think you can keep more in there, but near reproductive maturity, the bandensis become very territorial and competitive. Aggression becomes much more frequent. I would try to keep them at even numbers. In an ideal situation, you want couples. However, you wont have a guess at thier sex until at least 4-5 months.

A single mated pair would do great in a 40.

If you feel you want more then this, I would suggest 2 mated pairs over having 3 cuttles where one is single. The third will get picked on a lot. 2 mated pairs will mostly stick with themselves.

Ive learned a great deal from raising bandensis from eggs to thier current age of 9 months. One thing that I suggest is to get as strong/big a skimmer as you can afford. The skimmer is the heart of my filtration. Any slight waver in its ability to function properly, you will observe die offs. Cuttles are very sensitive to changes and intolerant to the slightest of bad water quality. Much more then any octo Ive ever kept.

For lighting, I would use 2 55 watt power compacts and have each on a timer with both being on at the same time for only 4 hours a day. That is, one can be on for 8-10 hours a day while the other only is on for 4. Too much light will make them less active. I had a blind cuttle, but I dont associate it with lighting.

In terms of corals, I would sugest zoos, mushrooms, ricordias, star polyps..etc. It has been suggested to not keep stining lps type corals with cephs. However, I have to admit I do have a hammer in my cuttle tank, but Ive never seen any signs of it stinging or harming a cuttle. Ive seen the bandesis sit on the coral and show no signs of distress..

Good luck and if you have any questions just ask!
You can see my experiences and tank set up on my webpage in my sig.
 
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Thanks! Yeah, I think I will stick with 2, and if they are both male, or both female, I will sell one and get another or trade or something. Does anyone know where I can get some eggs?
 

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funny after keeping A bimac and an S. officnalis when my cuttle dies ill get another octo
they are more acitve and interactive than cuttles.
My Cuttle never tried to grab me and only rarely eats out of my hand. My Bimac Megas was always in my hand looking for food and being a clown. always ate out of my hand and was always looking around and playing with the castle and toys i gave him.
eh
I think octos are more interesting to keep even if the cuttles are more exotic and colorful
 
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To make things even more difficult...

There is not much information regarding mixing bandensis that were reared apart.

That is, they may fight and kill each other or they may not. Bandensis can be kept in groups, but this has only been proven for groups that grew up together since young. I know mixing adults that are wild caught can result in fighting and death. So if it turns out your 2 are the same sex, it is uncertain if just trading one out will be successful. However, we may find that captive raised individuals reared apart can get along.

If anyone has had experience with this, I would like to know as well.

My dillemna at the moment involves three 5 month old bandensis that I have. I wonder what would happen if I put them in the main tank with my 9 month olds. I may put them in a clear divider and see how the 9 month olds react.

If you can keep a larger number until they are old enough to pair off, you can then trade/sell the rest off to responsible Tonmo members. You should be able to keep 6 or so in a 40 until they get to 4-5 months, which is about the time youll be able to sex them anyways..Also, expect to lose a couple along the journey. Regardless of how careful or well thought out your system is, Ive learned that sh*t happens. Bandensis rearing is still in its infancy, so we are still learnign as we go..Unfortuantely, these lessons have a price..

Also make sure you thoroughly think out your feeding situation for feeding an army of cuttles gets $$$$ real fast!
 

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