Wunderpus Photogenicus ?

dleo4590

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Yeah I would remove those fish from the octopuses enclosure. I forgot that you had it in the fish fry box and not in the main tank itself. The octopus doesn't really have a place they can go to escape from the fish, and the fish will take bites at the octopuses mantle and prevent it from being comfortable in its space.

I would leave the octo in their box alone, and only offer food either via a stick feed, so you can remove the prey if they don't eat it, or add a crab or fish for a few hours, and then remove it afterwards for the night if it goes uneaten during those couple hours.
ok will remove them now.
 

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Just finished testing water chemistry and everything is in normal range.

KH: 11.4 dKH
pH: 8.4
NH3: 0 mg/L
NO2: 0.1 mg/L
NO3: 25 mg/L
PO4: 0.25 mg/L
Ca: 480ppm
Si: 0.03 mg/L
O2: 9
Mg: 1430 mg/L
Sr: 4 mg/L
Iodide: 0.03 mg/L
Iodate: <0.03 mg/L

Compared to April 5th parameters

KH: 14.1 dKH
pH: 8.4
NH3: 0 mg/L
NO2: 0 mg/L
NO3: 25 mg/L
PO4: 0.25 mg/L
Ca: 500 ppm
Si: 0.03 mg/L
O2: 6
Mg: 1500 mg/L
Sr: 10 mg/L
Iodide: 0.03 mg/L
Iodate: <0.03 mg/L
 

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gut loaded ghost shrimp sometimes works!!! Also very small pieces of shrimp,silversides. I have had 3 wonderpus and they all stayed small(mantle about 1 inch),tentacles about 7. Mimics are usually much larger!!!
 

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I have not kept any exotics but have found that food size matters with the Caribbean varieties. Start with food the size of its eye, I believe what you are offering is way too large and intimidating. Once it starts eating you can gradually increase the food size.
 

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I have not kept any exotics but have found that food size matters with the Caribbean varieties. Start with food the size of its eye, I believe what you are offering is way too large and intimidating. Once it starts eating you can gradually increase the food size.
I don't have anything that small this is a very small mimic. It also ate most of it's arms. I also let it out into the big tank to prevent it from doing that but it's not doing too well but it had most of it's arms when I had and earlier was the first time I saw it and so it was a shock to see it with two arms left. There are small fish and it does catch them and kill them but doesn't eat them. It did the first day but I've tried everything and it won't take anything. It's just self mutilating at this point and I don't think it can really catch anyting anyway with two arms....
 

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It's unclear if it's caused by stress, infection, neurological problem, etc. Here's a past TONMO thread from another ceph keeper:


 

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It's unclear if it's caused by stress, infection, neurological problem, etc. Here's a past TONMO thread from another ceph keeper:


Well the publication I found and am attaching shows that there was a study that was conducted back in 1998 that suggests they've known that the autophagy is not caused from stress, lack of food or boredom. The abstract at the very beginning states, "Although the data are still limited, they indicate that autophagy is not caused by hunger or stress, but is an infectious, deadly disease... Some data suggests that autophagy is caused either by a substance released by the animal itself or, more likely, viruses or bacteria; these, in turn, seem to infect the nervous system." My boyfriend has his PhD and was able to access this information and has verified it's authenticity and/or it's validity within the scientific literature. It sounds as if they've known about this for a while...It seems that this was the only article ever published in the scientific community by cephalopod researchers, regarding autophagy.
 

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