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I remember reading an article on the congregation of giant cuttlefish that said they were only giant in comparison to other cuttlefish that can be as small as 1cm. Was that 1cm number in reference to juvenile cuttles or adults? If it was adults I would think that they would make great additions to reef tanks with large refugiums because at that size they would be eating little pods rather than threatening fish.
 

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There are little ones, they are almost never available in the trade. I have only seen them on lists once from Japan (the list that is). I wouldn't put them in a reef because I would imagine they would get eaten by fish, shrimp or even coral, and I think they would get lost in a fuge.
I would also worry about the capacity for a reef tank or a fuge to keep up with the feeding of a ceph.
As you can tell, I am a fan of species only tanks for cephs.
 

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Can you tell me the species so I can do a little research on my own?

The thing is that with the right kind of reef fish and avoid the hungry LPS (I passed up a great hiliofungia plate because I was afraid of it eating my Bandensis when I get them) but I wouldn't be afraid of them getting lost, I that they would go well in a big system that generated enough pods to have a breeding population of the cuttle fish in it.I wouldn't be afraid of losing them in a big system either, so long as they are still alive and breed, I would consider them like pods or worms with in the system, not a specimen but another bit of biodiversity.
 

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Norman's book lists bandensis as the smallest named species, and "Sepia sp. 1" (unofficially the Crinoid Cuttlefish) is around 4cm, unless I missed a smaller one (the book isn't organized by size, and many entries don't give a size at all, particularly for the rare animals.)
 

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Oops, I was thinking of Idiosepius paradoxus, which is often called a pigmy cuttlefish, but is really a squid.
 

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Paradox;97477 said:
What a cool name!

How do you like Sepia confusa? I noticed that in Cephs of the World...

I also just found a link to a list of all the known modern ceph species:

http://www.mnh.si.edu/cephs/newclass.pdf

Really just names and locations, no details, but maybe a good quick reference...
 

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I don't know Paradox... I don't think I would like Idio as part of my name reference ...
 

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