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Octo eggs hatched, help please???

Nautica

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Hi everyone- Im new to this forum, as well as cephs and have a few questions if anyone can possibly answer. This morning I discovered that all of my eggs hatched, from what Ive learned from everyone is that I need to feed them amphipods and mysids. Is this the best food I can give them? Im assuming these are live little buggers that you can pick up at any aquarium supply should carry.
My immediate question is should i remove the female from the aquarium before she dies and "inks"? or should i put all the babies into another tank. one by one with a tiny little net :wink:
I am planning on doing a water change daily to remove any dead, Ive got a little air line in the tank to provide a few bubbles, not too much though,

any immediate replies would be greatly appreciated. Id like to do everything possible to get the best survival rate.
Thanks- Ryan
 

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Hi Ryan,

You're in a difficult position. Your octo laid eggs soon after she arrived and you haven't had time to prepare for baby octos.

Are the little ones like tiny octopuses, you can clearly see their legs? or are they even smaller and don't really look like octopuses?

If they're like tiny octos, you have some hope of raising them. If they're smaller, you don't. However, it's hard to find live food even for the large-egged species hatchlings. Most likely your local fish store won't carry mysids or amphipods and you'll have to have them shipped in (unless you live near the ocean and can find food yourself).

This is a sorce. Look under "Salt Water Invertebrates".
http://www.aquaculturestore.com/products.html

You might try putting a few of them in breeder nets at the top of the tnak.

Good luck!

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If your tank setup includes a refugium you might try sticking some of the babies in there. Should be some pods of sorts in there for them to eat...

Good luck!
 

Nancy

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Thanks for providing this link to the Aquaculture Store - I see I accidently left it out of my post.

Nancy
 

Nautica

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Yes they do look similar to tiny octos, under a magnifier, you can definatly see thier tiny legs, one thing that is worrying me at this time however is, last night they were all active, pulsating around the tank, then this morning, (still thier night time) none were swiming around the tank, they were all at the bottom.. I am worried something went wrong and they all died, but under a microscope you can see that they are still breathing just not moving. im wondering if they are hopefully just sleeping? or are they permanetly sleeping.
 

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My experience with newly hatched octopuses is that they hang on the glass for a while, and then go hide. If you don't have hiding places for them (lots of live rock), maybe they'll go to the bottom.

Did you ask your local fish store if they could help you out? It will take a few days for food to arrive. You don't say where you live - maybe some TONMO.com members live near you and help out or even take a few.

We have pics online of baby octos. Here's one of mine.

Nancy
 

Nautica

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wow what a cute little guy. how old is that baby? mine dont look like that yet. not nearly that defined, they dont seem to stick to the glass at all, just keep pulsating and floating around the tank. seems like a whole lot of work for them.
as an update, after the lights kicked on many started swimming around again, however, i did loose more than half. I live in Eugene OR. and no stores here sell live food that small.. besides brine shrimp. ive put some rotifers along with some mysis shrimp, both were frozen sources. its hard to see if they actually are eating.
any one in the area that has a source would be more than welcome to let me know:biggrin2:
also should i remove the mom so she doesnt die and ink?
thanks all for responding.. really a big help.
Ryan-
 

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This baby octo is less than a day old, and is from a large-egged species (O. briareus).

I don't thiink you need to remove the mother until she dies, which might even be a few weeks from now. I haven't heard of one inking when she dies.

Nancy
 

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Nancy;83812 said:
This baby octo is less than a day old, and is from a large-egged species (O. briareus).

I don't thiink you need to remove the mother until she dies, which might even be a few weeks from now. I haven't heard of one inking when she dies.

Nancy

When Egor died, her eggs apparently died as well. Greg mentioned in this thread that this has been seen before, too, but isn't well understood.

http://www.tonmo.com/community/index.php?threads/5703/

It doesn't sound like ink related, though. Since mother octos do clean, aerate, and protect the eggs, I'd say it's unlikely to be a good idea to remove mom before the eggs hatch. After hatching, though, I have no idea... I wonder if any of the folks who raised babies for research recently found a good strategy...
 

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