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Cuttlefish diet

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I am currently having a discussion with another cuttlefish keeper about the appropriate diet for them, this person claims that frozen shrimp alone is perfectly sufficient for long term health and growth. I know that in the wild these guys would certainly not eat shrimp every meal, every day. I was of the opinion that giving them a varied diet of shrimp, clams, and marine fish would be more advantageous. Ideally these frozen foods would of course be a supplement to live crabs and shrimp. We can agree that live foods are preferred, however, they still believe that the frozen shrimp alone is enough. I was wondering if anyone could point me to any really good reference works on the subject. Personal experience is great as well, however it does not have the convincing power of the printed word. I would love to find some really in depth scientific articles or detailed books that I might be able to get access to. Your help would be much appreciated! :mrgreen:
 

Thales

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I don't know if you are going to find the study you are looking for. I would be interested in reading it though!

Live foods are only as good as the facility they are kept in or the area in which they are collected. I am moving from live foods to frozen because I am worried about the quality of the live food I have been collecting.

As a side note, my two new w.c. bandensis took to thawed frozen krill from day two - they started begging behavior the same day. Amazing.
 
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The dead foods are readily taken and with fervor. The live foods would be from local sources as we live on the beach, ie. collecting, bait shops. All live foods are routinely enriched first with nauplii, spirulina, and whatever else I can find. However, our main point of contention has been the feeding of one food item for every meal. It has generated some concern that the only food item is frozen shrimp and it seems the cuttles eat more of the shrimp and certainly seem to excrete more....so some folks suggested that perhaps the other foods were meeting more nutritional requirements, thereby generating less waste. Everything I have read seems to suggest a varied diet, I am wondering however, if there is some nutritional information I have missed somewhere. There are several people involved in the discussion so we all want to find the most healthful and appropriate diet. So, just thought I would throw this one at everybody and see what the consensus is. Again, any good reference if it exists would be ideal... :biggrin2:
 
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You can keep cuttlefish in good health on frozen shrimp, I raise them on live food (mysids, shrimp) untile they are about 4 in long and then switch them to frozen food. Of corse live food is best (shrimp, crabs, fish),but a lot of people can not get live food year round. I have done some studies on the difference in growth between a diet of live fish compared to a diet of live shrimp and it seams that shrimp is better. Although I am about to start a new study that should be published some time next year.
 

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Slowy moving mine over to dead food, using the shrimp I have caught after feeding them.

Managed to get all but 2 to feed on them tonight.

Suppose the beauty of gettting them ont dead food by the stick, is that you can vary their diets, which I am sure makes healthier cuttles.
 

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Good quality frozen, should be OK but I would still occasionally feed live, these are intelligent animals and hunting is a behavioural enrichment for them

J
 

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A few years back we quit using locally collected live crabs and snails to feed our cephalopods and stomatopods because I became convinced that heavly metals and/or other pollutants were being concentrated in our animals and causing a variety of health problems. I mentioned this to Roland Anderson who was having similar problems with their GPO's. If memory serves me correctly, he has some of the prey they were using analyzed and found them to be contaminated.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't use live prey, but if you do, they should come from non-polluted waters.

Roy
 

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Neogonodactylus said:
A few years back we quit using locally collected live crabs and snails to feed our cephalopods and stomatopods because I became convinced that heavly metals and/or other pollutants were being concentrated in our animals and causing a variety of health problems. I mentioned this to Roland Anderson who was having similar problems with their GPO's. If memory serves me correctly, he has some of the prey they were using analyzed and found them to be contaminated.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't use live prey, but if you do, they should come from non-polluted waters.

Roy
Too true, I guess that's where we're lucky down here in NZ (particularly in the South) the water quality is pretty, jolly good! In fact both the aquarium and lab just pump seawater from the harbour, through sand filters to the tanks...no problem. Any sedimentary pollution we have is spot pollution and the sources have mainly been removed and the sediments are coming right again........no heavy industry!!!!

But we still do water and sediment checks regularly and also check water samples for toxic algaes etc.....you can't be too careful!

J
 

Thales

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Neogonodactylus said:
A few years back we quit using locally collected live crabs and snails to feed our cephalopods and stomatopods because I became convinced that heavly metals and/or other pollutants were being concentrated in our animals and causing a variety of health problems. I mentioned this to Roland Anderson who was having similar problems with their GPO's. If memory serves me correctly, he has some of the prey they were using analyzed and found them to be contaminated.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't use live prey, but if you do, they should come from non-polluted waters.

Roy
Hey Roy,

What were the problems you were experiencing?

Rich
 

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