OMG! Ossie gave birth

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Also at the store, they have a bunch of deli containers with lids that you can use to house babies. Poke some tiny hole for circulation and away you go.
 
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OMG they are sooo small!!

I had to remake a container, because I used window screen for ventilation. These guys are so small that they could probably sqeeze through that!

Feeding them will be challenging. Hell, finding them after I put them in is already challenging. My tank is full of baby snails that are slightly larger then they are. Does anyone think this can be a good source of food?

The shore caught pods here may be a little too big still. Unless they can take something down bigger then it that swims much more efficiently...

Any suggestions??

Akyu-Tell me how the tiger pods do. If they eat them, I might have to go buy some of those for a while.
 

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Okay. One casualty so far and sure enough, a population explosion this morning.

Paradox, let me know if your babies survive, because at last count this morning, we have 25 live ones separated out with 3 more in the tank that we are unable to scoop up right now.

Yeah food source is going to be a problem. While in the tank, they should have been able to forage some copepods their size but now out of the tank....

Hopefully New Alameda has got the tigger pods in for me today.

Any suggestions on food source (that we can get for the immediate future?)

Cuttlegirl, you'd make a great Octo-mom too! Want a couple? (Why does this feel like I'm pushing 8-legged dope?)
 
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They are soo small, that I will probably want to remake a good container. I just threw pods of all sizes into one modified breeder containing one of the little guys. Hopefully he will eat some.

The 2nd guy seemed to get out of his holding pen, for I saw him floating around freely in my baby cuttle section. I couldnt catch him and now I cant see him. He may survive in here for its kinda sealed (except for an open top) and has mucho pods.

I might take a few more If I can create a better house for them. Ill keep you updated.
 
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Is there any way you could get to the shore and do plankton tows? You can buy a plankton net or make one out of lady's pantyhose. If you want to try making your own, I can give you directions...

Thanks for the offer on the baby octos, but I kind of have my hands full with the three baby cuttles and the kitchen remodel right now... I think I will just be a cuttlemom :biggrin2:
 

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lol cuttlegirl... oh well, I gave it the ol' college try.

Paradox, managed to get my hands on a lot of tigger pods today and they seem to be the perfect size!

We've dripped three tigger pods into each of the cups containing each octopus and am hoping that they'll go after them soon. Right now, they seem to be scared of the tigger pods but most of them look like they perked up after having the possibility of a hunt on their hands.

Will let you all know if there's another population explosion in the morning.
 

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Akyu said:
lol cuttlegirl... oh well, I gave it the ol' college try.

:smile:
 

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Yay C & H! My fave was one where Hobbes asked Calvin if he thought there was a God and Calvin replies after some silence, "Well, someone's out to get me."

I saw some new hatchlings swimming about the tank this morning but am "cramped" over with pain this morning to separate them out and W isn't awake yet. Went to check out some of the hatchlings. There's some that seem very active and those are the ones who seem to have figured out how to hunt. A couple of them are laying listlessly on the bottom of the cups, moving only when the tigger pods approach, and then to get out of the tigger pod's way. I'm not sure those are going to survive.

Is there a way to hand feed them?

I've got some phyto-feast to feed the tigger pods. Should I squirt a little into the ones that aren't eating's container?

Ossie was still alive as of yesterday. In a little while, the Advil should kick in and I should be able to see her. Will report back soon.

Anybody else in the bay area interested in some O. Mercatoris hatchlings?
 
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I can probably take a few more..I just made a mini housing complex and got some tige pods..

Im feeling a little lazy in driving over there though...When are you available?
 

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We should be home most of the day today. Tomorrow, W'll be at home all day and I'll be home in the evening. On the 4th, things are up in the air because W. seems like she's about to get sick.

If you still have the box that I put the cups in, just cut out a similar size for how many you want. Otherwise, I might be able to recreate the set-up.

How are yours doing?
 

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Bye Bye Babies

Well, in about two hours, 23-24 of the babies are going to Dr. Roy Caldwell's lab. Paradox has six of them, and Righty is taking five this coming weekend.

It looks like only 5 casualties so far, but I'm unable to determine if the rest has eaten the tigger pods or not. Everytime I think I see a tigger carcass, it moves after a while.

We'll probably do a water change this evening after the two dozen are gone.

I've been able to shoot a couple of movies, plus take a few photos. I will try and upload those as soon as I can. There's not much to see but what there is, is VERY VERY cute.

Ossie is very pale from what I can see. She flicked out a tentacle at me a few times today when I waved at her. I don't think she's eaten but there's plenty of food for her inside her tank.

One of the babies was so cute last night when I dripped a tigger pod into his cup. He turned red, then did a flip (it almost looked like it was turning itself inside out!). It stretched itself out to almost twice its size, then then started stalking the pod. Very cute.

Will update more if there's more news but at this time, i think it's just a matter of trying to get them to eat and not be afraid of the tigger pods.
 
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Wow,

You have done an amazing job keeping the babies alive, it is usually the first couple of days that are the hardest. They are adorable as babies, it's hard to imagine something so small with a personality isn't it?
 

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Thanks Cuttlegirl and yes! They already display personality. Most seem laid-back but two are showing signs of the same indignant entitlement to life that Ossie had.

The people from the lab came by and were surprised. They had thought that the babies were of the same species they had earlier this year; those were large-egged babies. Apparently, Ossie's a true Mercatoris and we have small-egged babies, which make them extremely hard to care for. They were surprised by the small casaulty rate (6 out of 42?). I asked them to keep me apprised of their well-being.
 

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Well Akyu, you continue to do things right. You must be a born octo keeper!

Nancy
 

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Photos of the Babies

Borrowed a friend's camera that has a macro setting on it and got some photos. These are two of the best, cropped. The orange thing floating above the baby in the 2nd photo is a tigger pod. These are clear plastic 10 oz tumblers we have them in; that's how small these cuties are.

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Amazing! Amazingly small! I wasn't sure what I was supposed to look for in that video. I think I saw the little guy jetting across the cup in the second video, but at first I thought it was just some seabug or fleck of dust.

It will be interesting to see a photographic timeline of these guys as they grow.

Perhaps we should start a ophthalmology trust fund for ceph breeders.
 
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