Eating my own arm?

[Bingo]

I've heard that an hungry octopus when lacking food can eat its own arm or two . Is that true? I know that when they lose an arm a new one grows back, so how long does it take to grow back to full size? if it goes back to full size that is.

 

[Steve O'Shea]

Interesting question! Lady TTF (Tintenfish, aka Kat) went for a dive several days ago and saw something like 5 octopus; she (and our jolly good cobber from Kelly Tarlton's, Nik) collected one of them; it has 3 arms missing (I didn't think it appropriate to ask questions).

The animal was collected 2 days ago and is doing fine; I'll tell you how long it takes to regenerate the missing arms.

Eating oneself (in octopus speak) is called autophagy; it is, as far as i can ascertain, not uncommon practice in stressed animals.

 

[Scouse]

Steve Wrote:

Eating oneself (in octopus speak) is called autophagy; it is, as far as i can ascertain, not uncommon practice in stressed animals.

Well im a bit stressed now an me big toe is lookin good for a blob of mayo...!!!

 

[WhiteKiboko]

 

[Jean]

Eating oneself (in octopus speak) is called autophagy; it is, as far as i can ascertain, not uncommon practice in stressed animals.

True, but there is some thought that it is a disease! we had one which had settled in very nicely, was eating and behaving normally and it suddenly started eating it's own arms, shortly after that the skin began to peel and we euthanised it. Problem is the disease version appears to be incredibly infectious. We had it this year, so drained the tank and let it stand dry for a week or so then refilled and restocked, in less than a week the new octi was eating it's arms. So we sterilised with bleach for a week, then neutralised it, replaced pipes and nets etc and we seem to be OK now (fingers crossed!). Budelmann has a paper on it where he reports it passing from tank to tank in a research situation. While he thought stress played a part, he was also wondering about disease, at one stage there was some discussion that it may be a prion (like mad cow disease). I don't think any further work's been done on it though. I was discussing it with James Wood and he doesn't think any more work's been done either. Research project there maybe???????

J

 

[Steve O'Shea]

Here's the blighter that Kat and Nik caught ....

Octopus gibbsi - a species I described in 1999 after a late, great mate, David W (for Wonderful) Gibbs ...

 

[Jean]

Beautiful and what a great memorial for a mate......wish I could find a new spp. I know who I'd name it for (had a dear friend killed this year, she'd have thought having an octi named after her the best......!)

J

 

[Colin]

Always rememeber to add the word 'octopus' to the word 'autophagy' when you are doing a Google image search!!!!!!!!!!!

(do we not have a spewing emoticon?)

 

[Bingo]

Its been about 10 days since Nik and Kat collected that oct with 3 missing arms, so I was just wondering how is it doing, and how much of the arms have grown back?

 

[Steve O'Shea]

I've just returned from feeding him; there's certainly a very fine, long piece of arm developing from one of the arm stumps; will try and get a pic morrow. Just fed him a pile of crabs ... literally ... the thing devoured the lot in about 2 seconds. Took me ages to collect them too!