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baby anenome?

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I'm almost ready for cuttlefish eggs, and i just noticed what apears to be a tiny sea anenome. should i get rid of it or will the cuttlefish stay away from it. it's in the side so I don't think they would have any trouble avoiding it.
 
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I would remove it. Those things have an amazing ability to snatch anything near their tentacles and draw it in and baby cuttles won't stand a chance escaping it if it grabs them. Joe's Juice works great.
 

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AM,
Have you used Joe's Juice on anemones in general or aptasia (I know they are a form of anemone)? I love the stuff for aptasia but was not aware that it would kill other anemones and would like to know if that is the case. I keep a condylactus anemone tank and have flower anemones in another. I have not had aptasia in either tank but would like to be forwarned if that is a problem (I know mushrooms are fine with it).
 

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Aptasia are a small, very invasive stinging anemone. It looks something like an ugly, mean feather duster (IMO) and is a real problem if not elminated. I was able to capture two (usually you cannot remove them by hand) and created an "undesireables" pico tank just to see what they would do. In about a month, without feeding, there were over a hundred. The tank survived and propagated for the better part of a year before they started dying out. I am attaching a picture from another forum. The aptasia are enlarged in the top photo, the bottom photo is of small, harmless feather dusters. The immediate difference is the white solid shell of the feathers (the crowns are usually a light pink or white). The aptasia have no shell or housing and are tan in color and have a spikey appearance. They are easily controlled (if you only have a couple) with Joe's Juice (leave on for an hour inspite of what the bottle says). Unfortuantely, by the time you see them there are likely to be others unseen that will keep showing up from time to time (Joe's will kill all of them that you can see but the more you see, the more there are that you don't see). Once you have elminated them, a single peppermint shrimp will keep them under control (double check with Thales or Cuttlegirl on the safety of keeping a peppermint with young/baby cuttles - definitely not when they are tiny).

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Thales, are peppermint shrimp known to have any problems with cuttles? I know they can be aggressive in numbers and it occured to me that I have one in the tank that housed the young cuttles that died rather mysteriously (I have two young dwarfs in the same tank now with no problems). The pep was about 1.5 times the length of the cuttlefish and I found both dead in the AM with no apparent problems the night before (peps are nocturnal feeders).
 
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dwhatley;101608 said:
AM,
Have you used Joe's Juice on anemones in general or aptasia (I know they are a form of anemone)? I love the stuff for aptasia but was not aware that it would kill other anemones and would like to know if that is the case. I keep a condylactus anemone tank and have flower anemones in another. I have not had aptasia in either tank but would like to be forwarned if that is a problem (I know mushrooms are fine with it).

I had a bunch of curly Q anemones take over my Angler's tank and I used the Joe's Juice on them a few days ago. They haven't popped out since, so I'm pretty sure they're toast. Just remember to turn off anything that creates water circulation so the juice doesn't fly around the tank. This was when I found out just how reactive they are to anything in their presence. I didn't even touch the tentacles with the tip of the syringe, and they would reach out and wrap it up. On a side note, my Angler is much happier :smile:
 
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Joes juice will kill any coral. Its basically kalkwaser paste with a very high PH. Ive used this with aptasia and it works great. Ive also used peppermint shrimps when I have no cephs in the tank.

I would imagine any peppermint shrimps would become cuttle food pretty quickly.
 

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Paradox,
As long as the peps might be come food and not the other way around. They can get pretty nasty in groups but have not had a problem keeping only one unless the one in my 15 gallon tank was agressive at night (the Mercs just wave him away). Ken (the diver I webmaster for) does not like them much. He collects them because of the demand and no shortage of supply but has seen them attack and kill small fish (convicts) in a rather grusome fashion. I like to keep one in a tank if I can (not with the dwarf lion though, too expensive to feed as it is since he will ONLY eat live shrimp - spoiled brat).

I suspected Joe's Juice of being pickleing lime (kalkwaser) and something but I have never witnessed a PH swing nor had any undesired deaths (hence my expectation of an additional "something" that helps neutralize the lime). At least twice I squirted a mushroom (once badly because the plunger stuck) and although it reacted immediately by closing up, by the next day it was normal with no obvious ill effects. I have not used it near other anemones (I have flowers in one tank and condys in another), more by chance (no aptasia) than by design. I will note that the rocks that have come with the critters was not aquacultured rock but that may be cooincidental.
 
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well then mine isn't an aptasia. its about an inch across, and the tentacles are completely clear accept for the tips which end in little pink spheres. other than that it's pretty non descript.
 

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