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A stubborn baby octopus

Aaron

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I have a 2 month old octopus who was introduced to his tank a week ago. For the first few days he took bits of clam and muscle from a feeding stick. Then he suddenly rejected all food on a stick. For the next few days he happily ate live ghost shrimp that I put inside his den for him. Now he's refusing the ghost shrimp.

What do I feed my baby now? I'm considering using emerald crabs but that could become very expensive and besides - I'm not even sure he'll be able to kill and eat them .... What do you guys out there think about my putting a few snails near his den .... Any and all sugg
estions would be greatly appreciated ...
 

Nancy

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Ghost shrimp are not the best food for him. Maybe he wants more variety.

Yes, you can try snails, also small blue legged crabs or red legged crabs are less expensive then emerald crabs. I would also try thawed frozen shrimp. You can buy the kind we eat and cut it into smaller pieces.

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Just to add to Nancy's reply... You want to make sure that the shrimp is raw (gray in color), not cooked (red or pink in color). You could also try bits of raw scallop.
 

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one thing that can cause a loss of appetite is water problems, have you tested your water chemistry since this happened? Sometimes adding a cephalopod causes a "mini cycle" even in an established tank, so if your water parameters aren't perfect, you might want to do a partial water change and see if the octo's appetite improves.
 

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I don't know if this is the best thread to bring this up, but I have to mention something, as I know many of us like to use raw "human grade" shrimp.
I told my aquarium guys that I sometimes use raw "human grade" seafood for my fish/octo stuff and he said it was very very bad to do - can make your aqua pets sick and even kill them. I never noticed a change in my little guys [other than the fact that they LOVE the stuff!], but better safe than sorry... :hmm:
The reason for this is something in the way the seafood is mass-prepared....a chemical or bacterial thing, I believe. He referenced an article about it - I'll see if I can hunt it down.
 

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DrBatty,
I saw something recently about Indo-China seafood (I think it was shrimp) being refused in a number of countries (Japan being one of them) because of the antibiotic content, that may be what he was referring to but I don't think US shrimp are treated. I could be badly mistaken here as it may depend upon where and by whom the shrimp are caught and packed. It would be great if you can find the atricle.
 

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Aaron,

Paul Sachs:

http://www.aquaculturestore.com/

has been just great about getting me very small fiddlers and some of my Mercatoris babies (well, 7 months now but small octos) will happily eat them. They are cheaper than mithrax and he collects them fresh. If you order from him leave a note on Paypal that you want the smallest he has for a baby Octo, he will understand :smile:.

I suggest removing the large claw from the males by holding the claw and placing the crab in the water. It will drop the claw to escape naturally and I have found the method much perferable to cutting the tips or manually removing it.
 

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It's hard to find out about these things. I would trust US shrimp more than imported.

I have always tried to buy shrimp from a place where I could find out how the shrimp was handled and whether it was treated. I have a good fishmarket nearby that brings in Guif shrimp by air overnight (we're about 200 miles from the Gulf of Mexico). Even through it arrives in less than one day, it is frozen. I found this to be very good.

Whole Foods does not treat any of their fresh or frozen shrimp (or other seafood).

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DrBatty;103000 said:
I don't know if this is the best thread to bring this up, but I have to mention something, as I know many of us like to use raw "human grade" shrimp.
I told my aquarium guys that I sometimes use raw "human grade" seafood for my fish/octo stuff and he said it was very very bad to do - can make your aqua pets sick and even kill them. I never noticed a change in my little guys [other than the fact that they LOVE the stuff!], but better safe than sorry... :hmm:
The reason for this is something in the way the seafood is mass-prepared....a chemical or bacterial thing, I believe. He referenced an article about it - I'll see if I can hunt it down.

When you buy frozen from the store you want to make sure it is 'organic' in way. Look at the ingredients and all you want them to say is "raw tiger shrimp", or the like. Some may have a preservative too, which I doubt will kill anything, but straight up raw is always better. Your best bet for this is to go to a seafood market, or the fresh seafood section at your grocer. They usually won't have preservatives or anything else in them because people usually eat them right away when they buy from there.
 

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Shipposhack,
Unfortunately, what you recommend would have been unquestionable 5 years ago. With our high imports and newest chemical treatments, this is no longer a guaranteed safe approach. The consumer has started demanding to know where food comes from and many stores (Walmart's fish department for one strangely enough) are labling the origination of their fresh foods. But also like Walmart, much of the "fresh" is actually thawed frozen and may have been exposed to antibiotics or other drugs.
 

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