For sure! What do you think? My own thoughts are at least somewhat embedded here, but I'm always happy to discuss as I am very aware this is an evolving topic and it's very important. Depending on where laws and regulations go, it could absolutely impact how TONMO operates. I've had many rich discussions on this at past TONMOCONs (e.g., w/ @perke; would love to get her take as well!)Do you think this kind of post could cause a conflict of differing opinions?
and at the same time, I can relateThey are very primitive in behavior in that they do what they need to live. They do learn but it stems from acquiring what is needed to live. Like food.
I feel there could be other factors into this as well. I won't go into it to much as this is not the place for it, but if there is legislation backing it, it's political... not going there.Good discussion!
I am really interested in why humans are constantly trying to find "intelligence" or "sentience" in other animals. It is just so strange to me. We are using our own biases of what those terms mean to apply them to other animals, maybe successfully or not. We are learning more and more about other animals as each day passes by and we are more and more amazed, which I think is great and exciting! At the same time, I wish there was more nuance in these types of things - as y'all have pointed out in your posts. I think what we need is more and more open discussion like this. Keep it up!
Yes, that is the perfect way of saying that!As long as the animals are treated humanely that is what is important. If they are farmed, treat them well and kill humanely. If animals need to be operated on, give them an anesthetic.
For instance, I seen part of a video were Gordon Ramsay was dealing with live octopus and he bit wear the brain was. .