Glove Growing Up

monty

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the "skunk stripe" look is great, is that Glove's typical look when excited about food?

I'm also frequently surprised at how many reports there are of cephs eating crustaceans much smaller than they are, everything from dwhatley's mercs eating cyclop-eze to humboldts scooping up krill with their arms. I'm not at all clear on how they get the small things to the beak, and whether they just swallow them alive or use some beak-radula action to chew them up. It seems like large suckers wouldn't be able to grab small critters, although maybe the small ones at the ends of the arms would...
 

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Monty,
I am still trying to figure that out. Except in the video I posted where Trapper would take the Cyclop-eeze by mouth almost directly from the pipette, I can't say that I have "seen" them eating the tiny food but I know they do. I think it "sticks" to their suckers and they must move it up to the mouth. If you remember, I posted a question back with Trapper and asked if there was any chance of directly ingesting from the suckers since there seems to be a sense of taste there. I remember you replying that there was no suggestion of this ability but watching even the tiny ones sweep the water columln for small food still makes me wonder.
 

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Rigby has "attacked" pods before but he lets them go... I don't know if he just doesn't know what to do with them or if he just thinks it is fun to catch them and let them go... kinda like fishing... but i see him let them go..
 

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SandV,
This is definitely consumption. Trapper lived over 12 weeks on nothing but Cyclop-eeze (while and after brooding young). After she quit eating crab and shrimp, I noticed her "sweeping" the water whenever I would feed the babies so I started including her in the pipette feeding. Now I include Cyclop-eeze daily in the diet of the adults as well as the new babies (note I said include as I also feed crab and shrimp). The adults will sometimes decline shrimp but never decline the Cyclop-eeze and are still doing well after nine + months.
 

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Gloves Suckers on the Glass:

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Mr. 3 Legger's Suckers on the Glass (as you can see, Mr. 3L is out much more when the halides are on now that he has grown a bit):

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So far, no sign of enlarged suckers that I can detect (3L may not count in the observation) but I am not sure all species have this male/female distinction and Medusa did not show his until several months after they were very clear on Sisturus (both Mercatoris). So far, observing my 2 males in a small tank and two males and 1 female in a larger tank, I am beginning to think that males are more social than females (observations limited to this one brood) and that keeping two males together may produce better pets, just no young.
 

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I witnessed another interaction between Glove and my Blue Ribbon Eel. This time I was nervous (probably because I was walking out the door on my way to work ughh). It looked like Glove took a very aggressive pose and almost seemed to be grabbing the eel to bite. I was surprised that the eel wasn't squirming or trying to get away. I took a closer inspection and it just seemed like Glove was inspecting or just liked the way the eel felt. Weird. Anyone have an idea of what this behavior is? I've always kept my Octos in species specific tanks before these two so I am not sure what Glove was doing. Glove was light brown in color, no patterns, and seemed almost to be stroking the Eel. As the Eel was swiiming around, Glove would pull in part of the eels body towards him (thats what made me think he was going to bite) but then would let the eel swim away gently as if he liked the way the Eels body rubbed up against his suckers and tentacles. The Eel showed zero sign of alarm or that he felt like he was being restricted.

I'm just hoping it wasn't Glove sizing the eel up as a potential meal (the Blue Ribbon Eel is full grown). Any thoughts?
 

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