lets just condemn octo pouncing and leave it that....
this is not the place for political diatribes, no matter regardless of your leaning....if you have something outrageous that you can share like an adult, the 'octopus and propaganda' thread (sticky, and the best thread on the board

[mainly thanks to clem and phil]) is your place to go... we also have the cephs in video game thread(s?)....
i think i remember mario squishing a few squid.... i think it may just be a matter of a society that is more tied into the sea, leaving cephs to be more readily enlisted as either friend or foe....