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I always wondered about this photo...
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I'll have to remember that next time I'm snorkling... wouldn't want one of these guys coming up and tickling my feet!
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My oh my, that's Architeuthis, my friend! Caught near Kyoto and dragged towards a bitter tidepool end...
"The Eye" haunted many a Tonmo'er for nights on end, I well remember
"The Eye" haunted many a Tonmo'er for nights on end, I well remember
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No Graeme, that is Architeuthis, not Dosidicus. That specimen has a long story attached to it, you can read all about it in this thread:
http://www.tonmo.com/community/index.php?threads/1292/&highlight=architeuthis
Clem discovered the picture and it caused quite a stir in late 2003.
http://www.tonmo.com/community/index.php?threads/1292/&highlight=architeuthis
Clem discovered the picture and it caused quite a stir in late 2003.
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Touché 
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On a side note, wasn't there speculation of the eye manipulated by Photoshop or some other program of that sort?
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Say, come to think of it, wasn't Steve's distinguished guest Dr Ku rumored to have more information about this animal? Could he perhaps be asked if he'd be willing to further clarify the occasion, and perhaps whether there is a version of the pic that doesn't have the eye doctored in photoshop?
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In answer to Chrono's post: I personally don't think so, but there are fellow rivet counters amongst us who will claim to have noticed suspect pixelation around the eye. The musculature looks fine to me and there's nothing in the textbooks speaking against reflection in A. dux's retina as a natural photoenhancer for an animal which lives under sparse lighting conditions...
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ob said:
I found Matt's analysis pretty compelling:
http://www.tonmo.com/community/index.php?threads/1292/#post-42706
All this means, though, is that someone did something to the photo-- it may not have substantively changed the picture. Perhaps they just thought there was some sort of bad reflection, or maybe they just thought they could enhance the contrast or something.
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That eye is still freakin me out 
That old thread was where Steve said "live ammonites" were about to be discovered.
That old thread was where Steve said "live ammonites" were about to be discovered.
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Oh, I did originally think it was an archie, but I was told otherwise. I was always under the impression that no one had seen a live archie, even dying. Hoo well.
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Graeme, leave your rock now! See Phil's avatar, wonder in astonishment...
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rock?? Phils Avatar? issat the video sequence? I thought there was dispute about that?
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Hello Graeme,
These people who've been telling you otherwise, are they by any chance would-be Archie hunters who just can't get over getting their ***es whupped?
I wasn't aware that there was any disupte about Kubodera and Mori's photographs (it wasn't a true video). There's been some animated discussion about the fact that the squid lost a tentacle in the encounter, and about what the photos may reveal about Archie's general demeanour, i.e. active hunter vs. pasive feeder, but there's no disputing that it was Architeuthis.
I hope that you will bring all of this to the attention of your ill-informed peers, and make them cry.
Cheers,
Clem
These people who've been telling you otherwise, are they by any chance would-be Archie hunters who just can't get over getting their ***es whupped?
I wasn't aware that there was any disupte about Kubodera and Mori's photographs (it wasn't a true video). There's been some animated discussion about the fact that the squid lost a tentacle in the encounter, and about what the photos may reveal about Archie's general demeanour, i.e. active hunter vs. pasive feeder, but there's no disputing that it was Architeuthis.
I hope that you will bring all of this to the attention of your ill-informed peers, and make them cry.
Cheers,
Clem
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If I remember rightly the Architeuthis caught at Kyoto went on display at the National Science Museum in Tokyo so there is absolutely no doubt as to its identity.
It is interesting to compare the shape of the eye with these two images, the first, in the boat, is allegedly Architeuthis. The one in the water is apparantly not Architeuthis, but is still a large and powerful squid. In case anyone is curious, I'm afraid I don't have the rest of the photo, and I don't know what type of squid it is.
It is interesting to compare the shape of the eye with these two images, the first, in the boat, is allegedly Architeuthis. The one in the water is apparantly not Architeuthis, but is still a large and powerful squid. In case anyone is curious, I'm afraid I don't have the rest of the photo, and I don't know what type of squid it is.
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