zebra octopus

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does anyone have any info on a zebra octopus? the LFS i work at had on pop up on a wholesale list. i assume they have a short life span like other octos, but any info on tank size, etc. would be great. thanks
 

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the closest thing i could find was a wonderpus which is undescribed. any idea why they are undescribed? so i guess, anyone have any info on wonderpus care?
 

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there plenty on the site about wonderpus... just click search in the upper right and type in 'wonderpus'.....
 

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did a search and all i found was stuff questioning the id of a certain octo, nothing on care. is there anyone out there who can help me?
 

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Zebra octos could possibly be mimic octopus or a wonderpus, its not reccomended that you try keeping them as very little about them is known. They also don't show much of their wonderful displays in home aquaria.
 

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This doesn't help, but a couple of nights ago I saw a picture somewhere on the web of a caribean species that looked like someone might call it a zebra octopus.
 

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When an animal comes into the wholesalers, they don't do too much research...hence, a black and white octo would just be called a "zebra" without knowing the species...it could be one of a myriad...sorry !
 

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ok, so without knowing anything about it i am at a crossroads. do i order it and with the help of everyone here, try to learn as much about it as possible for the sake of science? or risk someone else getting it who has no idea of what they are doing?
 

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Well, the critter is bound to die no matter what...the chances of it still being in stock now are slim to none, but they may get in more. The turnover rate at a wholesalers is staggering, most fish and animals are in their tanks for less than a day, before being shipped out...
If you want a good octo to keep and watch, I would go with the bimac also...
greg
 

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bimacs are cool, dont get me wrong. i'm studying cephs now in college and the prospect of something alittle more exotic is very appealing. i tend to have a soft spot for cool and unusual things since i feel i can take care of them better than the average person
 

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Bimacs were unusual until just a few years ago, and we are still finding out more and more about them...
But, they were kept when everyone said they couldn't be ,also...so I guess you have to follow your inner voice on this one...let us know how it goes!
greg
 

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i get that species on importers lists from Bali all the time... It is most probably mimic but possibly wunderpus.

I cant recomend importing them they seem to be poor travellers and not ideal for aquariums due to their needs of deep sandy substrates etc.

Also most individuals i have seen imported are adults with perhaps weeks to live.. shame
 
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tank balla;93041 said:
i got a one just two day, mine is just the best on the first day it ate and is doing just fine.

i will keep u guys updated

What size tank is he in? How long has the tank been up and running? Please tell me you have a protein skimmer... Glad it survived the first day, the transition to a new tank is stressful on any octopus.
 

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cthulhu77;38530 said:
Well, the critter is bound to die no matter what...the chances of it still being in stock now are slim to none, but they may get in more. The turnover rate at a wholesalers is staggering, most fish and animals are in their tanks for less than a day, before being shipped out...
If you want a good octo to keep and watch, I would go with the bimac also...
greg


Greg,

Sorry, I don't believe that you are quite correct about the wholesaler's turnover rates. You may be confusing them with transhippers (which I would NEVER suggest anyone use) The reputable wholesalers hold their stock for at least a day. Shoot - the acclimation method that some of them use takes eight hours just by itself. One of the largest wholesalers on 104th street had three mimics when I bought mine. They still had one three weeks later before they sold it. That said, in my recent article on this topic (next thread down I believe) I suggest that people NOT buy mimic or Wunderpus sight-unseen...based on the early-on mortality syndrome seen in some animals.


Jay

p.s. - you are right that the critter is bound to die no matter what, the mortality rate for ALL living things (except perhaps those that reproduce by fission) is ALWAYS 100%
 

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Guys,

We can't paint wholesalers with a broad brush. There are all kinds. Some quarantine, some don't. Some sell from quarantine, some don't. Some acclimate well, some faux acclimate, some don't acclimate. In a busy week, some could sell 90% of the animals they got from the last shipment while on a slow week they may hold on to 90% of the last shipment.
The recent trend in wholesaling is to treat the animals better because the customers are demanding it with their money, and because losses go down with a little effort. However, as there are some that are actually making changes, there are some that say they are making changes but don't do anything differently.
The 'industry' is vast an complex, and generally those of us lucky enough (or unlucky enough!) to deal with the wholesale/collecting end quickly learn which are bad, which are reputable and which give lip service.
 
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