"Wha, me attitude?" Not Ossie, the Octo

Akyu

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Thanks all! The credit goes to W. and Ossie, without whom the movie wouldn't have existed at all. (Still a little bitter that Ossie deems me as the clean-up crew and W. as the one to show off in front of).

Ossie seems to be doing fine - a bit overcrowded at the moment but fine. Since the inking the other night, she's been reticent to come out even in the red light. I keep getting glimpses of her behind her den but as soon as she spots the red light, she heads back into her den. W. has been showing much more restraint than I in terms of looking for her.

I have a question for you all. I've noticed that in a lot of videos featured here on Tonmo, there's some live rock in the tanks, but instead of 1 to 1-1/2 lbs for every gallon, it seems to be a lesser ratio. Should this be the case for the 75-gal we're purchasing?
 

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I used about 1 pound per gallon, since 1 to 1 1/2 pounds per gallon are recommended. You have to allow plenty of room for your octopus to move and swim - it's nice to have a little "beach" area in the front of the tank, too. So that's why some people use a bit less (and cost).

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Man, the Gods up there just doesn't want us to set up a larger tank for Ossie!

Two Fridays ago, we had bought all the materials for our new 75-gallon tank. Every night prior to that Friday, W. had observed Ossie swimming about the tank at night, playing with one thing or another.

The coolest thing W. observed was Ossie seeming to dance to flickering lights. I had bought a little battery operated fountain for W. The fountain has oscillating lights, (blue, green, red, white) and cycles through the various lights, casting color on the wall behind it.

The first few nights we had the fountain on, Ossie would swim to that corner of the tank, dance along the water's edge, then swim down to the substrate, and then swim back up to the water line, almost swaying in time to the oscillating lights. I wish we had gotten video of it, but Ossie has developed a fear of the camera. Whenever she sees it, off she swims to her den.

Anyway, W. was at the Octopus Gardens picking up the tank, the stand, and 60 gallons of water. Earlier that week, I had gotten the new protein skimmer and a couple of new pumps. I was on the phone with W., when I realized our phone was dying. At the same time, the DSL was conking out as well.

Investigating the source, I soon found out that our condo was being flooded AGAIN. This time from our upstairs neighbor's dishwasher. About 20 gallons of water was dumped into my living room/kitchen and the laminate flooring that the tank was going to sit on, was pretty much ruined.

Needless to say, all plans for the 75-gallon has been put off. Nothing can be done until the floor is replaced, the drywall dried off, and the kitchen cabinet replaced. *heavy sigh*

Soon after that, Tonmo suffered the server problems and to be honest, both W. and I don't even want to walk into a LFS to just look around right now. We both really want the larger tank cause we're sure Ossie would be happier in it but we're stuck in limbo right now. We don't want the tank set up anywhere else in the house because we just can't fathom setting it up, then having to move it two months later.

In the meantime, Ossie's water levels have leveled off and remained stable. We're doing water changes at least once a week and we're doing our best to not to look at anything relating to tanks in the meantime.

I've asked W. to take more movies of Ossie if she could. I have a very hard time seeing her with my bifocals and therefore have left the sightings to her. I did manage to see a tentacle flick out of the back of her den yesterday, to chase away an errant hermit crab that wandered too close. Occasionally, W. will call out and from the light of the television I can see a shadow swim across the back of the tank. On those occasions, I often think that the Batman was misnamed - that the name Octoman is more appropo, because of the blending into the shadows, flitting across the dark, and the ability to strike fear into the hearts of crabs and shrimp everywhere.

S.
 

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Cuttlegirl and Carol, thanks for your concern and suggestions for Ossie.

Life has been crazy here. It looks like I'm going to have to sue my upstairs neighbor for damages because it's been close to four weeks and she's done nothing. Therefore, the larger tank is sitting on my floor looking forlorn and lonely without critters in it.

As for Ossie, she's still stuck in the small 5.5 gallon tank. She hasn't been venturing out lately (but it could be the glow of the TV) so neither of us has seen much of her except tentacles darting out of her den.

We were afraid that she was getting bored, so we got her favorite food (tiny red crabs that look like crabs and aren't hermits) which are expensive as all out (compared to ghost shrimp) and then as a last minute gift, we got a green chromis for her to play with.

Since I had been worried about her eating habits, we were watching for remains very carefully. Sure enough, one of the two crabs we got was eaten on the first night.

And that night, we saw tentacles come flickering out of her den to experience Flit (the green chromis). Flit chose (we thought stupidly but it may end up being a good choice) the back of her den as her hiding spot. Flit was a VERY nervous nellie her first night, but since then has settled into a seemingly calm existence. She is still sleeping behind Ossie's den but we haven't really observed how they are together yet.

Here's the neat thing: the second crab was left alone.

Why is it neat? Well, we've come to two conclusions about why the crab was left alone. First off, Ossie has a tendency to leave ONE species of something in her tank - the exception being ghost shrimp. We have some blue legged hermits in her tank but she prefers the red legged type. However, when we got her six of those, she promptly ate all of them but one. She did the same thing with the cerith snails and the Astrea snails. Left one of each.

The other reason we've come up with is, I was moving some of the rocks around to get at the empty crab shell, when the surviving red crab fell off the rock I was moving. Well, the survivor apparently didn't survive the fall (of 6 inches!) because it didn't flip itself over and when I did notice it moving a few minutes later, it was because a bristle worm was trying to move it!

Could Ossie have known that it was a dying crab and chosen not to eat it?

Anyway, after she ate the red crab, the next night she went after the conch snail FINALLY, after 6 weeks.

Here's my problem: the water stinks of snail carcass (unmistakable odor) and I cannot find the carcass. We are doing daily water changes until the carcass disintegrates or the smell goes away (whichever comes first), but what else can be done? I don't think I want to disturb her den to go searching there.

Any suggestions would be welcome!

Oh and Carol, yeah, after capturing Ossie that one time with a really good photo, we have stopped using the flash altogether and only use movie mode where we are able to get somewhat clearer pictures.
 
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Try to find the snail carcass!!! It is going to wreak havoc on your tiny system!!! I know what you mean about the smell, yuck. One time I was carrying a dead nemertean worm that was about 5 feet long in a glass container (first stupid mistake) and I dropped in the faculty hallway... Let's just say the professors weren't particularly happy with the aroma...

Anyway, back to your topic, glad to hear Ossie still has you two spoiling her :biggrin2:
 

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D'oh!

So we've been checking the water the last three days since we found the empty conch shell but no remnants and I've smelled the icky smell. For the past day, W. has been opening up the tank, taking a deep whiff and saying, "Doesn't smell that bad." And she's the one with the sense of smell in the family.

I've been cracking open the feeder slot and taking a deep whiff and making a face at the odor. Tonight, we opted for another water change since I smelled it again and when she opened up the tank, she was right - it didn't smell that bad!

Apparently, I had dripped some snail juice or blood or something onto the masking tape that covers the feeder slot and THAT was what I had been smelling.

We're rearranging the live rock tonight to give her a place to re-explore. While we were doing that, all of a sudden, tentacles dart out the back of the den and a ghost shrimp gives up the ghost. I guess dinner must go on.

Oh, and somehow Flit the green chromis managed to scare W. tonight by swimming right at her while her face was close to the surface of the water. I couldn't stop laughing for a minute or two.
 

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cuttlegirl said:
One time I was carrying a dead nemertean worm that was about 5 feet long in a glass container (first stupid mistake) and I dropped in the faculty hallway... Let's just say the professors weren't particularly happy with the aroma...

Hmm, what were your grades that semester? :lol:
 

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