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SueNami - O. briareus

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Welcome

Welcome to your new briareus - very imaginative name! To me, briareus are one of the prettiest and most graceful octopuses. She seems to getting along quite well already.

D, you certainly have provided us with a wealth of information about Sue and the water parameters upon arrival.
Since you need this information for acclimation, please follow D's lead and try to post it in your journal when you have a new octopus.

Nancy
 

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SueNami is eating well and reacts immediately when Neal puts the Cyclop-eeze (and usually some other small stuff) in to feed everything else. She will put an arm or two up the back wall looking for her shrimp and sometimes come out enough to see her eyes but will not stay out long after she sees us. If we try to get her to come out for her food she withdraws completely. Tonight she did not eat the whole piece offered (but did eat most of it) so we will offer a live crab tomorrow for a diet change and a smaller portion. I put a fiddler in the tank the day she arrived that has never been seen again so I will assume she ate it at some point in addition to the 3 pieces of shrimp. So far (4 days) she has not ventured out while we have been near the tank (and I don't think she has come out at all) but she does move around in the open space behind the LR.
 

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She's a beauty! You posted awesome information for the acclimation and I love how you have made the measurements in the critter keepers with her and Beldar. THANKS:notworth:! I wasn't able to follow my own advice with Izabel because there was so little water in her shipping bag. Loved the vid of her with the stars!
 

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I was pleased with the video (especially since I thought I had it and then thought the camera was off when it was supposed to be on!) but really neurotic watching her so stressed out at the time. She still is not showing the curiosity I expected and stays to the open area behind the LR. Since she knows feeding time now, we will attempt to coax her out more next week.
 

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We have been worried about SueNami because she won't leave the security of the space behind the rocks. She did the stressed arm twitching thing almost nightly for the first week and has shed most of her sucker skin by the looks of what we have seen floating in the tank (I have seen the shed with nonstressed arm flailing from Trapper (mercatoris) but can't recall seeing it the arm movement at all with the hummelinckis). I have noted that the hummelinckis would sometimes seem to become recluse when they shed as if the fresh skin on the suckers was tender so we are hoping there is some relationship between the shedding and the recluse behavior.

She eats well as long as we will put food against the back wall. She will come out far enough for us to see her eyes, a couple of very long arms and a little mantle but that is all. When we tried putting food where she could see it but would have to come out, she never approached it (on the third day of trying this we put it in her accepted area and she came for it immediately). It has occurred to me that part of her shyness may be the recent amputations. As I have noted, two of the arms are missing right up to the mantle and one is guessed at half its healthy size. Not having had one lose arms (other than Octane after his ultimately fatal tank escape and air exposure), I don't know if being recluse for a recovery period is normal.

Tonight, for the first time, she showed arms after feeding time so Neal put his hand in at the back of the tank. She finally showed some curiosity and tried to pull him into her den. Later I wiggled my fingers near the back as well and she reached up and touched them (Neal must have tasted better because she did not try to pull me in). This was very encouraging and we are hoping next week we will see her out of her security area.
 

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SueNami continues to be recluse but comes half way out for supper. Tonight she took her shrimp from a front rock opening rather than on the back wall and started to come out into the light but a serpent scared her and she zipped back down to her safe area (no ink though). Later she stayed near the opening and we stared at each other for 5 minutes or so. This is actually progress as she would not stay where she could see that I could see her until tonight. I sat on the octo couch a couple times hoping she would repeat the staring contest but the best she would do was not move further into the darkness and she did not color to disappear like she has been doing. Maybe by Monday her confidence will improve enough for me to get a look at the missing arms.
 

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Contact Lenses for an Octopus?

After a month and a week, SueNami is FINALLY showing some signs of curiosity and acclimation to tank life. This weekend she came out from behind her rock just after Neal fed the Cyclop-eeze to the tank but before he offered her dinner (she does eat some of the Cyclop-eeze since we see it in her waste but her main food is frozen shrimp).

These are just awful photos but were the is the best I could do with the reflection from outside lighting and food clouding the water. I was glad to at least have something to put in the journal

The first picture is a representation of what we typically see nightly at feeding time. We have been seeing slightly more of her for a couple of weeks (eyes and mantle) but she has not shown all of herself to us before Sunday. I even got a look at the new arm growth and would guestimate that she has about two inches of new arm where the two arms were missing all the way to the central webbing. I have wondered if the missing arms have been the reason for her refusal to leave the shelter of her rock cavern.

In the second and third shot you can see that she is actually in full view and insisting that she gets to take the stick as well as the food.

Tonight we tried hanging her shrimp on a zip tie and she eventually came out to eat it. I don't think she sees very well and may be extremely far sighted. I know she can detect movement at 16 feet as she inked when my son started down the stairs (she did not go back in her den though) but she had a hard time finding the shrimp that was almost in front of her. She could follow my finger outside the tank and seemed curious about it. She was interested enough in my hand that I led her arm toward the shrimp and she took it very quickly once she made contact. She may do better once she starts coming out more and it may be that her eyes are having trouble adjusting after spending a month in the dark.
 

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After over a month, we are finally seeing day to day (literally) improvement with SueNami's socialization. Tonight at supper time she not only came out from behind her rocks but she made a short foray across the tubes to the other side of the tank. She is staying out a little longer with each feeding so I am hopeful she will come out or stay out other than to collect her food.

I still think her shyness may stem from the missing arms. It you look closely at the photo above (right side) you can see the new arm growth of one of the arms. It appears both arms are regerating at the same speed and I am estimating that to be about 2 inches a month.
 

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I just looked in on SueNami when I went down for coffee and noticed that she has blown all the sand that was behind the LR to the front of the tank. I noticed a pile of it in the front and peeking at the back (I have an opaque, black back on the tank) I can see the clear floor of the tank. No clue what this means.
 
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dwhatley;136570 said:
I just looked in on SueNami when I went down for coffee and noticed that she has blown all the sand that was behind the LR to the front of the tank. I noticed a pile of it in the front and peeking at the back (I have an opaque, black back on the tank) I can see the clear floor of the tank. No clue what this means.

Kalypso did that from time to time.
 

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