octopus for a beginner

iwun1

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some more questions

i did some more research i wanted to know do i need a chiller for my Bimac if the room i have is 70 degrees but in summer it may bounce do 75 for 3-5 hours or so?And hermits i am very confused i hear that people feed like 5 a day but aren't they 1 dollar-3 dollars ea fiddlers sound more reasonable with snails my lfs sells snails for 1-3 dollars and there pretty small i know fiddlers are 1.50 ea so are they the best?And my lfs for human food sells shrimp pretty cheap are they ok to feed im definitely not trying to cut corners i just dont want to spend what is not necessary.....1 more thing i have heard that bimacs are hard to obtain is this true if i look for a couple of months or is there a different octopus that would be good for a beginner ceph keeper?
 
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Ok... check out aquaculturestore.com for some live food. The temperature of your room and the temperature of your tank may be different. You can put a fan blowing over the sump to cool your water a few degrees. Every octopus is different in terms of what it likes to eat (think of how people like to eat different things, some people hate broccoli, some people love it...). Some octopus are very picky and some will eat almost anything. Until you get your octopus, you will not know what it will eat so it is good to have a variety of foods on hand when you get your octopus.
 
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Stability of temperature is generally preferred, but bimacs do hang out in tidepools and will be exposed to various temperatures doing such, so a slight shift in temperature won't be too bad. I would aim for more stability though to be safe.

www.aquaculture.com sells fiddlers about as cheap as you will find them.

I don't think any one particular common species of octopus is going to be any easier for a beginner to keep. Size is probably the main thing to consider. Just aim for a species that best suits your tank size. A. aculeatus, O. hummelincki, etc.
 

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is this ok?

ok i just wanted to make sure my variety of foods is good i was going to feed hermits snails and fiddlers when he is bigger blue legged occasionally.but the hermits snails and fiddlers are going to be his normal diet.Do i need to add another kind of food to the menu like shore shrimp and if i do can i just buy like a 10 gallon get an air stone and a filter and put like 200 in?I also have been looking at mussels can i put them with the shrimp the fiddlers or what are they healthy?1 more kind of food i was looking at is shrimp from a fish store are they treated because its human food same with clams and other seafood or are they fine?Any help is greatly appreciated!:roflmao:
 

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tank raised would be the best way to go. i know there are plenty of ceph breeders here on tonmo (myself not included at the time :frown:)
 

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I keep my shore shrimp in a bare bottom 10 gallon with an oversized hang-on filter (I completely change the water and filter with each new batch but only feed and top off as needed inbetween) and my clams either in another similar bare bottom tank or in the sand in some of my other aquariums (might as well get the filtering benefits). The clams need to be easily visible but the ones I get from http://www.livebrineshrimp.com/ (live stock, near the bottom) have only met their demise at the arms of Octane - many after months in my sump. You will probably want to put the clams in fresh saltwater for a day or two before putting them in a tank with fish or an octo as they are filter feeders and you don't know their prior environment.

I keep my fiddlers in a couple of two gallon nanos with an exposed climbing rock and nano filter. A taller tank than what I use would be better but if you keep your climbing rock to the center, most of them will stay INSIDE the tank - usually:oops:
 

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"I keep my fiddlers in a couple of two gallon nanos with an exposed climbing rock and nano filter. A taller tank than what I use would be better but if you keep your climbing rock to the center, most of them will stay INSIDE the tank - usually"

Similar sort of thing, but I have to weight the lid. My cat finds fiddlers just fascinating, and until I caught on that she was breaking in and hooking them out I was most mystified by all the sad, battered little crabby corpses I would find around the house! :roll:
 

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are the hermits and snails at livebrineshrimp.com ok to feed?and can someone please tell me if hermits snails and fiddlers the occasional blue leg crab is enough of a variety?This is kind of random but i just wanted to know if the octo eats the shells of the crabs and snails..and you said you should put the clams in fresh saltwater before you put them in a tank is just like a bucket of saltwater ok if there just there for like a day?
 

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iwon1,
Cephs don't eat any of the shells. I am not sure how long it takes a clam to fully cycle so I usually keep them in a bare tank (bucket should do fine but they will need moving water and I would suggest some kind of overflow filter (any of the cheaper overflow filters should provide enough circulation and filtration).

The variety that you feed your octo will depend a lot on the octopus. Amost all will eat fiddlers but after that each octo is different. Octane will eat frozen shrimp for between 4 and 5 days straight then won't touch them. I keep a clam in the tank try to be sure there is a live fiddler available for him to hunt. On the days he won't take the shrimp, he will usually open a clam and I have noticed that I need to add hermits and a few shore shrimp again.
 

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