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wendy

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myopsida said:
Unfortunately its not just trawling......the results of the January survey of bonobos in the Congo has just been announced: number of wild bonobos counted = zero.
the bottom where fishos trawl there net, must be, the only bottom steve's seen by the sounds of thing's Who get's to see down deep anyway? steve, get's to see the bottom after its be trawled 1000 times, fishos don't like to trawl over rocks or reef, it rips there net, Is this site GREENPEACE or TONMO :confused:
 


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I think you will find that a fair number of TONMOers are conservation-minded, by dint of the fact that they care about cephalopods and the environment they (both TONMOers and cephs) live in. It's very difficult to be interested in and passionate about the natural world and the amazing creatures in it without being concerned for the (negative) impact humanity is obviously having on it - and trying to repair our mistakes.

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wendy said:
Is this site GREENPEACE or TONMO :confused:

It is a site where people express legitimate concerns, ask legitimate questions, and generally talk about cephalopod biology and systematics.

I am proud to say that I have not seen that many bottoms!

I am extremely concerned to hear you mention 'trawled 1000 times'. That's a lot of effort!

So, Jason, oooooops, sorry, Wendy, what have I done to upset you?

What is your interest in cephalopods Wendy?
How did you happen upon TONMO?
What do you know about TONMO?
Do you understand what Greenpeace is about, and what they stand for?
Will your grandchildren respect you?
Will your children respect you?
Do you respect yourself?
Do you even like yourself?
How do you sleep?
Why don't you pack your bags?
 


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I thought I would attempt to make sense (if possible) of this:

wendy said:
The bottom, where fishermen trawl their net, it must be, the only bottom Steve's seen by the sound of things... Who gets to see down that deep anyway? Steve, gets to see the bottom after its be trawled 1000 times. Fishermen don't like to trawl over rocks or reef, as it can rip their net. Is this site GREENPEACE or TONMO :confused:

What this means: Wendy is insinuating that Steve's opinion is biased because supposedly, he has only seen heavily trawled areas. Additionally he is saying that since this environment is hard to get to, it's preservation or indeed study is therfore irrelevant, if there is money to be made. Also he adds that fisher folk avoid rough ground as it can damage the trawl gear (which incidently, can be worth hundreds of thousands of NZ dollars). As for the last statement, yawn.

That's my translation/interpretation
 
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wendy said:
the bottom where fishos trawl there net, must be, the only bottom steve's seen by the sounds of thing's Who get's to see down deep anyway? steve, get's to see the bottom after its be trawled 1000 times, fishos don't like to trawl over rocks or reef, it rips there net, Is this site GREENPEACE or TONMO :confused:

It seems like that Wendy is trying to say that...Ok, Matt's got it.
But I think Matt left out that since it's so deep and not much poeple get to see it, why bother? And Bottom trawling doesn't touch the bottom of the sea floor, which actually does (I think.)
If GREENPEACE would actually be in some sort of project work on TONMO, that would be good.
Wendy seems to be forgetting that GreenPeace has a piont too....that if bottom trawling does exist in the minds some...
 

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