New User/New Tank!

Amygdalan

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Just wanted to say hi to everyone as I'm brand new here, but I've been reading the forums for a few months now while trying to determine what set up to buy to attempt to get a tank started.

I decided on a 92 Gallon corner tank which I found for sale complete with live rock and cycled water. It's got a skimmer and sump set up, and custom lighting. It's beautiful! I've attached a picture. I love just having it in my room, the white noise of the bubbles to sleep to is wonderful.

I've got it completely filled now, and just a warning to anyone buying a used tank... Look over it EXTREMELY well. You can see in the last picture I attached of what I thought was a crack AFTER I had the tank filled in my fourth floor apartment bedroom! What a nightmare. I completely freaked out when I saw this and worried about the tank flooding my apartment and the neighbors below! :bugout: :banghead: :sink: The "crack" was in a spot that I couldn't see when I purchased it, as it was under the canopy starting from the upper left corner. Anyhow, to my absolute glee I found out that it wasn't a crack at all, but a strand of silicone that had dripped from when the tank was sealed that had been there all along! I scraped some off and checked it with an LED light to make sure... no crack! Just some silicone! You can't imagine how relieved I felt. :biggrin2: So be very sure if you're buying a used tank to look it over extremely well before you buy it.

I'm sure I'll be posting a lot more once my salinity goes down (I had to add about 40 gallons of uncycled water and salt) and the tank is ready for livestock.

I will be getting an octopus, probably O. Vulgaris. My first question will be, what, if anything, should I keep in the tank with it?

Thanks, look forward to talking with you all in the future :smile:

-Ray
 

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:welcome: and I'm glad the crack turned out to be an illusion...
 

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We had one of those after purchase "cracks" too. Since the tank is acrylic we did not have your terror but were delighted to find that the crack was easily removed during cleaning.

You might look at the mats they make for aquariums,http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=14697 to put over the carpet. Saltwater is not well suited for carpet and I have found these to be very useful (it looks like they are on sale now as well). I keep one in front of two of my tanks even on tile floor.
 
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Welcome to TONMO!

As long as the previous owner can swear there was no copper treatments ever used in the tank you're good to go. It looks very nice. I can't imagine hauling that thing up 3 flights of stairs! Being from Florida you shouldn't have too much trouble finding a suitable octopus for your tank. O. vulgaris may get a bit too big for that tank though. I'd suggest an O. briareus or O. hummelincki.
 


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Thanks for the tip on the mat, I just ordered one. That must be the cheapest thing I've purchased so far! :lol:

The previous owner swore to me no copper products were used in the tank. They had it set up as saltwater and I saw the tank fully set up with tons of fish in it. It did have some green hair algae overgrowth that needed to be cleaned off the live rock, but he claimed that was from lack of care.

Thanks for the tip on the species decision. What size tank would you recommend for O. Vulgaris? Just curious. I'll probably try to track down one of those you suggested if the tank is truly too small.

Hah, we have a freight elevator in the building so we just brought it up in that. The water and rocks were the worst part, the tank is acrylic and surprisingly light.
 

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There are two current keepers of the octos Animal_Mother suggested. They are both Caribbean species.

My hummelincki's journal: http://www.tonmo.com/community/index.php?threads/9957/

AM's briareus journal: http://www.tonmo.com/community/index.php?threads/8735/

If you look through the Journal section, many people include the octopus species in the title (helpful if you will do the same). Reading through the life recordings should both help prepare you for your encounter and get an idea of the differences in the species.

Oh, and if that had been a crack, since the tank IS acrylic you could have made somewhat unsightly but fool proof repairs. One of our tanks, after weeks of delay, was damaged in shipping. The vendor replaced the tank but ultimately did not send a shipper to pickup the cracked tank. After several months and thoughts about trying to cut off the damage (about 7 inches from the top down the front center of the tank) we did some reading and injected acrylic cement into the crack. It spiderwebbed width wise but not further down and sealed the tank completely. We bought some black acrylic, and made a decorative band around the top and then a small acrylic plate (we were going to put a name plate on it but never did :roll:) to cover the rest of the ugly part. The band actually improved the looks of the tank so much we made another for the replacement aquarium.

We have also done extensive rework on an old used tank, including completely relocating the overflow and sealing the bulkhead hole. Worse yet, this tank had had a cracked and repaired bottom before we acquired it and the top support band had not been properly sealed and had to be removed and reworked. That aquarium is in my living room and has had no problems for over 2 years. Needless to say, I am sold on acrylic but wish they were either easier to polish or would not scratch so easily.
 

Amygdalan

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Thanks for the links, those will make for good Friday readings.

It's nice to know they can be fixed, but still, it's not what you want to deal with when you've just shelled out a substantial sum for your very first saltwater tank.

My tank has literally no noticeable scratches... I haven't seen one. To that effect, what do you recommend for cleaning/polishing? I currently just use a paper towel and a little bit of 1 to 8 vinegar to water to wipe down the front if it gets wet.

Another question... my salinity is still really high. I changed out 10 gallons last night adding only fresh, and the hydrometer is through the roof. Keep in mind that I mixed the salt in the tank on Sunday, so it could still be dissolving? I still see particles floating around. I swear I added less than suggested on the Red Sea salt instructions. Weird. The good news is, my PH, ALK, and Nitrites test out all right. Should I be testing for Nitrates as well? That test didn't come with the kit.

-Ray
 

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Animal Mother;129685 said:
Hydrometers are notoriously inaccurate. Perhaps a LFS has a refractometer they can measure your salinity with.

Good to know, but I think this is giving a true reading as I can see a good amount of undissolved salt granules floating around.
 

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