disgusting.

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chrono_war01;94022 said:
Cruel..but to say that this is disgusting would be a exaggeration, when compared to other things that poeple do. All that I see was the octo not really bothered to move from its place when the man was in the tank trying to pry if off the bottom. Same thing happens when the octo was on top of the guy.

This is pitiful, but not terrifyingly disgusting.


It is when you consider they were trying to bite it where the brain is. They were trying to kill the octopus.....on such a large one I doubt they could, so they likely inflicted a brain injury on it. This is cruel and if it had been done in NZ under the Animal Welfare Act (1999) they would be liable on

"summary conviction,---
(a) In the case of an individual, to imprisonment for a term not
exceeding 6 months or to a fine not exceeding $25,000 or to
both; or
(b) In the case of a body corporate to a fine not exceeding $125,000."



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I think the lack of "action" on the side of the octopus is because they bite into it's central ganglion/"brain", a not so sure way of killing it, demonstrated on the small specimen at the start of the clip; might even pass for humane. I don't care a lot for the lack of respect shown, myself. Crude and unnecessary...

Edit: sorry, from the hip, overlooked Jean's post completely :oops:
 
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rewatching it once or twice, it seems more like a very macebre way of "Bite where in case you somehow find yourself needing to kill a octopus with your bare hands." Cruel, but I guess it's still education in the lowest form possible.
 

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chrono_war01;94073 said:
rewatching it once or twice, it seems more like a very macebre way of "Bite where in case you somehow find yourself needing to kill a octopus with your bare hands." Cruel, but I guess it's still education in the lowest form possible.

hard to say, because I don't read/understand Japanese, I have no idea what they're saying......if anyone could translate that would be good!......for all I know they're saying "this is a cool thing to do." Anyway why maim/kill an animal in a less than humane way to demonstrate this? We do dissect octopus (sorry :sad:) with students but it's either died naturally (most commonly) or we've euthanised it in the appropriate manner (very occasionally). I think a properly conducted dissection showing regard and respect for the animal has much more educational value than this kind of "aint I brave" grandstanding!

Sorry for the rant (& it's not directed at you CW :biggrin2: it's just one of my "buttons" that can be pushed very easily!!) but it's something I feel very strongly about!!!!

We jump through hoops to get permission even to hold animals for display, we have a 21 page ethics approval form and we must get approval every 3 years plus we have annual inspections, this is to display animals, use them for teaching, research...everything. (check out http://awo.otago.ac.nz if you're interested in how the Uni deals with animal welfare!) and despite whingeing every time I have to fill in a form, I think it's a good thing!!!

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Bob the kracken;94106 said:
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: What really burns me is that people liked it enough to give ti four stars!:mad: :mad: :mad:. the poor octopus probably has no idea what is going on.


Which only goes to show that its not educating anyone in any way useful!

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I actually dated a girl that said " My favourite cut of steak is veal." I tried to explain the difference, but had no luck.

Shanlyn saw the show on how veal is raised, and won't eat it anymore...sort of like how I won't eat fish anymore, not out of health concerns (high mercury and parasites all over the place) , but because I like fish more than I do noodles and cows. Fish are Friends.

Sensationalized videos like this one are truly cr*p, with no merit to them at all, unless it is to make people angry enough to stop eating octopus.
 

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cthulhu77;94157 said:
I actually dated a girl that said " My favourite cut of steak is veal." I tried to explain the difference, but had no luck.

Shanlyn saw the show on how veal is raised, and won't eat it anymore...sort of like how I won't eat fish anymore, not out of health concerns (high mercury and parasites all over the place) , but because I like fish more than I do noodles and cows. Fish are Friends.

Sensationalized videos like this one are truly cr*p, with no merit to them at all, unless it is to make people angry enough to stop eating octopus.

Yup veal is definitely off the menu at our place and I've never really liked fish (or seafood of any sort) but it was only reinforced when i began dissecting fish and preparing fish for the aquarium animals 'shudder' :yuck:.........No way will I ever eat sushi!!!!!

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