Hands definitely won out. Was that his usual bed time or is he losing stamina? This is the first time i believe i have seen Dax with a hand. I didn't realise quite how small O. Briareus is. Perfect size! I saw a video with a bimac and it was also quite bitty. Again i was surprised. I just never imagined they were so wonderfully diminuative. I guess that is also a reason bimacs are so much in demand. I was wondering why they seem much more popular than briareus. I haven't yet gotten to see as many videos of them as briareus, thanks to you and Dax, but i find it hard to believe they could be more wonderful than briareus. Maybe it's just that Dax is the first octo i have made an acquaintance with. If Dax is a middleaged male, how much smaller are juveniles when they are ( i want to say adopted, but that sounds a bit crazy cat lady. I hate to say obtained or acquired, because that sounds like a pair of shoes or kitchen implement. Adopted? No. I would like to come up with a word that indicates that these are super intelligent, very special animals. I have never used words like that with my dogs or when i had horses. You know, it just dawned on me (duh!) that my perhaps pointless meanderings about octos are not appropriate or desired for these forums. Please tell me if they are and i will stop. You won't hurt my feelings! Again, i really do appreciate your posts,pix and videos. They are so informative and welcomed. Even if i will not be able to live with my own ceph friend, i would like to learn all i can about them. Thanks to you and TONMO that is a reality.