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Couple Questions...

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Well im in no hurry to add anything. The reason I suggested the quick cylce is because if my LFS doesnt have bimac's, or octo's for that matter I would want the octo shipped in good weather conditions.
 


Fishfreak218

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dwhatley;99552 said:
FishFreak,
The tank, at one month, is "cycled" enough to start adding clean up crew and maybe some hardy macro algae. The tank is NOT cycled even for normal fish
maybe in your experience but others have had much other experiences... many people get their first fish at around 5 weeks [a little over a month] and alot of people put in their clean up crew at 3 weeks. I do agree that a new tank has to mature and it is best to wait a few months [for a high bio-load animal such as on octo or eel or shark]. But to say that someone starting a normal reeftank/fowlr cant add fish gradually [after the initial month-long cycle] is well..... IMO wrong because many people do this with succssess.
Thats just my opinion... sorry for stealing this thread.. im pretty sure we have ended my part of the disscussion
 
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Fishfreak218;99557 said:
maybe in your experience but others have had much other experiences... many people get their first fish at around 5 weeks [a little over a month] and alot of people put in their clean up crew at 3 weeks. I do agree that a new tank has to mature and it is best to wait a few months [for a high bio-load animal such as on octo or eel or shark]. But to say that someone starting a normal reeftank/fowlr cant add fish gradually [after the initial month-long cycle] is well..... IMO wrong because many people do this with succssess.
Thats just my opinion... sorry for stealing this thread.. im pretty sure we have ended my part of the disscussion

The point is, the longer a person waits, the better off their tank and its inhabitants will be. They might be bored with it for another 2 months or eaten up with anticipation but at least their animals won't have to pay for their impatience.
 
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Hey sorry it took so long to find. RC has a terrible search feature (always too busy, how to do they expect me to buy nice corals and equipment AND be a paying member >.> :biggrin2:). Anyway I finally found it and what a joy it is to read. It will make you feel smarter I guarantee it (unless you are already pretty smart, then it will just make you feel good that you found something up to par). Anyway here it is. I believe after the first few pages I just skipped most the posts unless it was by EricHugo (or it looked worth my while). Read it all if you have the time and patience though.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=249112

Sadly I don't think all the telling in the world will help someone that has never had a tank before. Most have to experience this, hopefully just once, before they will believe that you actually have to leave your tank with nothing in it for a good while. Oh well hope this helps some people with their next tanks or gives insight as to why it's important to wait.
 

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Shipposhack,
Thanks for the link. I wish I could write up a description as definitive as Eric's initial litany on the topic. Excellent! It is so hard to convince new SW folks not to make the same mistakes most of us have made (kind of like my kids). A great learning forum topic would be "Failures and Their Analysis" but I am afraid the participation would be low since it is difficult to discuss the sad side of the learning curve even though a lot would be gained in the recording.
 


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Wow...that link is one of the best, clear, easy to understand descriptions, of what happens in a tanks cycling I think I have ever read.
 

Fishfreak218

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shipposhack;99570 said:
Hey sorry it took so long to find. RC has a terrible search feature (always too busy, how to do they expect me to buy nice corals and equipment AND be a paying member >.> :biggrin2:). Anyway I finally found it and what a joy it is to read. It will make you feel smarter I guarantee it (unless you are already pretty smart, then it will just make you feel good that you found something up to par). Anyway here it is. I believe after the first few pages I just skipped most the posts unless it was by EricHugo (or it looked worth my while). Read it all if you have the time and patience though.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=249112

Sadly I don't think all the telling in the world will help someone that has never had a tank before. Most have to experience this, hopefully just once, before they will believe that you actually have to leave your tank with nothing in it for a good while. Oh well hope this helps some people with their next tanks or gives insight as to why it's important to wait.

:read::thumbsup:
Thanks for that!
 

DWhatley

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Shipposhack,
I just passed the link to one of Sealife's new customers who asked about increasing their clean-up crew order to include primary critters. The discussion is pure gold.
Thanks again,
 

DHyslop

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shipposhack;99570 said:
Hey sorry it took so long to find. RC has a terrible search feature (always too busy...

You can go to Google and search any site, bypassing that site's own search engine. To find that particular thread, for example, I might go to Google and type in:

"maturity issues site:reefcentral.com"

Since I know the name of the thread it is easy. The problem is there are so many threads in the history of RC that it is hard to find a particular one because you have to find a handful of words that appeared in that thread and that thread only.

Dan
 

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