Good point - conservation has to start at the 'ground roots' level.chrono_war01;80369 said:Hey what about the SUVS and the Alaska Oil Rig?
Bush may be saying "Save the enviroment", but I really don't see the point if our basic lifestyles don't change.
myopsida said:How about TONMO supporting a ban on the keeping of all but captive bred cepahlopods in aquaria.
Although rare, endangered, and otherwise at risk species could be a real issue, from everything I've read, the aquarium hobby industry is really a small catch compared to the numbers of octos and cuttles that are caught as food, bycatch, and bait. In the "choose your battles wisely domain," I'd say that a blanket objection to wild-caught pet octos and cuttles is cutting off our nose to spite our face. Personally, I'd like to promote ceph keeping as a hobby, decrease mortality rates in capture and shipping, ban destructive and cruel capture methods, ban or regulate import of inappropriate species (endangered, understudied, or requiring more specialized care than even expert hobby aquariasts can produce, and probably poisonous-- sorry Greg), and encourage people to only order cephs when they are really prepared to house them. Probably reducing fatal bycatch for some species would be a good goal as well, and maybe reducing food use of endangered species (although I'm not sure this is really much of a problem).myopsida;80395 said:and how long do you think it will be before there are no wild ones left to catch? how many do you think die before they get to the pet shop?
Never. With the exception of rare or worriesome species like the mimics, flamboyants, etc that we already disapprove of owning; I have seen no evidence that the harvest of cephalopods for the hobby trade is anything but eternally sustainable.myopsida;80395 said:and how long do you think it will be before there are no wild ones left to catch? how many do you think die before they get to the pet shop?