BENABEHENRY octo?

[gholland]

Can anybody ID this octo kept by BENABEHENRY back in 2005?

http://www.tonmo.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/370
Didn't see an ID when searching the old threads.

 

[gholland]

I've seen pics of similar octos from the Indo-Pacific region, specifically Sentosa Island, Singapore. Could it be Cistopus indicus?
ftp://ftp.fao.org/docrep/fao/009/ac479e/AC479E35.pdf
I can't find a good pic of that species anywhere... Is it in Hanlon's guide?

 

[DWhatley]

I can't be of any help on this one but you have me wondering why you are asking ...

 

[gholland]

you have me wondering why you are asking ...

Remind me to never play chess with you D... always one step ahead of me.

Billy at stomatopod.com just received three of that species... I don't have the info on size, but that 2005 account from BENABEHENRY seems to agree with Billy's take on the "personality" of this species. In Billy's words:

"they have extremely long arms and that they display magnificent shapes much like the mimics do" and​

"this octopus is so very impressive"​

I've attached his pic below. From what I've seen, the dark skin around the suckers seems to be an unusual characteristic... I'm thinking you need one of these D, so you can compare them to the hummelincki. This may be the one he received as a "Bali octopus". He is reluctant to post an unidentified octo for sale, so I was hoping to tap the vast knowledge of our members here.

 

[monty]

Roy and Mucktopus seem to be quite good at IDing octos from that area, particularly ones that we don't see in the pet trade too often. I hope they'll see this and respond, but nudging them with a PM might be good.

 

[DWhatley]

Remind me to never play chess with you D... always one step ahead of me.

If that were true, I should have immediately asked what Billie received in the first octo shipment since I was aware of your post about a possible supplier that could become an excellent (albeit expensive) source for octos. In my earlier life, two and two would have made four much more quickly.

I'm thinking you need one of these D, so you can compare them to the hummelincki.

Unfortunately, if we can get a max size on them, I would be very interested. Octane has been showing signs of sesenence for the last month but I have just excellerated the process though carelessness. I will be watching the thread to see if Muctopus or Roy have a suggestion. Can you ask Billie approximately how long the arms are in swim position? I is OK to mention my interest. Thanks for the additional info. That is a stunning critter and I have my fingers crossed that is it aquarium keepable (is that a word?)

Could it be Cistopus indicus?

I hope not, but Billie should be able to negate (but not necessarily confirm) this by looking for eight pouches around the mouth (page 211 in Norman's Cephalopods A World Guide) These would be slime pouches and would imply an animal not well suited to an aquarium. Unfortunately the only picture in norman is of the underside.

 

[gholland]

I was aware of your post about a possible supplier that could become an excellent (albeit expensive) source for octos.

Can you ask Billie approximately how long the arms are in swim position? I is OK to mention my interest. Thanks for the additional info. That is a stunning critter and I have my fingers crossed that is it aquarium keepable (is that a word?)

I didn't mean that stomatopod.com would be an expensive source (they aren't expensive for mantis, especially considering the individual attention)... just that keeping "one of everything that comes in" would be expensive for them. I'm sure that's just an excuse for them to have more "pets".

I'll let him know and see what I can find out. I keep hoping he will jump in here.

 

[gholland]

I hope not, but Billie should be able to negate (but not necessarily confirm) this by looking for eight pouches around the mouth (page 211 in Norman's Cephalopods A World Guide) These would be slime pouches and would imply an animal not well suited to an aquarium. Unfortunately the only picture in norman is of the underside.

I already sent him a picture (from the link below) of the pores and pouches associated with the Cistopus sp. so we shall see. As I understood it, the purpose of the mucus is unknown, but is speculated to be used for lining a burrow.
http://etd.lib.nsysu.edu.tw/ETD-db/ETD-search/view_etd?URN=etd-0622103-184409

 

[Animal Mother]

Very beautiful whatever it is. Love the fanned out arms. Some sort of Abdopus maybe?

 

[DWhatley]

Greg,
Try this one on for size: http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/dwhatley/Octocapricornicus.jpg

I kept thinking I had seen those arms somewhere. This one is Australian but the arm look (shape and patterns) is similar and I have noticed that a lot of the Aussie octos are also found in Indonesia even though this is not mentioned in Norman's book. The personality fits as well as AM's thought about abdopus (I believe this one has been reclassified as abdopus vs octopus)